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....*cough*@#$@$%*grumble*@#$%ungrateful schmuck...@#$%*cough*new year's#@$%*grumble*#$%% *cough grumble*......

I assume you're pissed at Ogre now, eh Ryn?

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At least temporarily. I'm working my ass off here eating Skitt- er, *cough* working on the MMORPG map, and he dares imply that I'm being a lazy bastard and not putting up any screenies!

*2nd post of 2004, z00t*

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Hm, makes sense... I finally had time to work on my map today too... (finally)... new screeny up with it.

Hey, this is my second post of 2004 too... just realized that.

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All right, you ungrateful incosiderate complainers , I have more screens to keep you away from me...

Firstly, the new Portal system. The Alliance has portals in Frostmoon (NE), Andorel (human), and Ildaris (BE/HE)... They are very obviously huge and blue, and can only be used by people at or over lvl 20, as they've already explored quite a bit...

We have a Rogue at the Ildaris portal, standing there looking at all the sparkly colors.

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Oh yeah... this happens to be the "Close chase cam" view, also known as "Fake 1st Person"...

You can use the keyboard arrow buttons to move forward and turn left/right fairly smoothly. It keeps moving or turning your hero as long as you hold the button. There's sometimes a minor delay between the first button press and movement due to anti-lag designs, but I think it's mostly good. In battles you might want to use the normal right-click movement though.

Anyhow, the Rogue steps into the portal, and a dialog shows up, displaying the 3 various destinations. Technically, clicking "Ildaris" is pointless, but it does 2 good things:

1. Saves a whole lot of useless repetitive programming time for me (yay).
2. Lets you spam the shiny beautiful teleporting effects to your content in one place (YAY!!).

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folder icon   01-03-2004, 02:57 PM
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Ah, I also managed to do something that NOBODY HAS EVER ACCOMPLISHED IN THE MAPPING AND MODDING COMMUNITY!!!

I broke the frigging minimap.

Now, provided you use the ingame teleporter once from Frostmoon to Andorel with a Black Bear morph Druid,
then port a Rogue from Frostmoon to Ildaris,
then port the Black Bear back to Frostmoon,
then Alt+Tab out of Warcraft to another resolution such as 1024x768 from Warcraft's 1600x1200 (while WE is running),
run the DOS commander thingy in Windows (cmd) program and close it,
run Internet Explorer and close it,
then click on Warcraft in the taskbar to return to it,
and then port the Rogue back to Frostmoon from Ildaris...
the map now shows your location offset by about 2 miles north of your real location. Clicking on it to order a unit to move also sends it 2 miles south of where it should be going.

It's either my coolness energies, the portal interdimensional flux, the badassness of my map, or the matter transformations within the morphing Druid, or maybe the psychedelic blue shiny colors, but I broke the frigging minimap. Man I rule.

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Anyway, back to the map. I click the "Frostmoon" button and the Rogue is instantly zapped to Frostmoon, where she can look at the giant tree.

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The Warlock has a spell called Spirit Bind, that functions roughly like Parasite and forces a unit to be revived as a Wraith upon death. This is the Wraith, with Curse and Possession, in CloseChaseCam view... these things have a move speed of 522, which is pretty freaking fast... And they can Possess anything under LVL 20.

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The Wraith Possesses a Gnoll Brute, and now you can walk around in the Gnoll's body and beat on things with the big mace. Joy. Glee.

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A second Wraith with its Warlock summoner.

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The new morphing dialogs. Thanks to 1.13, dialogs are now about 20 times simpler than before, which allows me to make more and more sexy dialogs for everything from portals to spells to maybe even bar menus.

This is the Lesser morph dialog...

Spider
This thing may be slow, but it is poisonous and can pounce on one or two enemies quite effectively.

Wolf
More of a fast rogue-like animal, but with Critical Strike. Good transportation.

Crab
Big, slow tank with high health and good attacks, may immobilize some enemies. Nice for distracting people so your mage buddy can run away from a firefight.

Critter
This one gives you another choice, Sheep, Rat, Stag, Pig, or Hermit Crab. Make good spies.

Black Bear
A berserker type, can be the best tank of the five thanks to Roar and Rage abilities, but burns out rather quickly.

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Intermediate

Nightsabre
A sort of upgrade on the wolf. Excellent runner, and may Stealth (backstaaaaaab!) and Shadowmeld.

Venom Ooze
Who doesn't want to be a poisonous blob of destruction? Ranged, has a powerful poison effect. Shabby health rating though.

Frost Wolf
Another wolf, but this one is magical. Cone of Cold and Frostbolt, as well as frost normal attacks. Very nice.

Satyr Soulstealer
This one is rather neat. It can run pretty fast, has Resistant skin, and casts some nice Chaos/necromancy spells including Death Coil. The health is somewhat mediocre however.

Grizzly
Bigger, really vicious bear. Besides just Rage abilities, it has some good attacks including an upped Power Strike for high damage.

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Greater.

Frostsabre
White tiger of kickass. High Agility and Strength, and even has frost attacks and Resistant skin. Also high regeneration and a couple spells. Does bonus damage against anything named Roy.

Berserk Wildkin
Your favorite psycho owlbear thing. Fast, has Rage and some Druidish spells like Rejuv.

Dire Mammoth
Average speed, but dishes out damage in spades. Area stomps, Roar, and even damage return. Can be surrounded and swarmed though.

Magnataur Destroyer
Pure melee destructive force. All kinds of nasty abilities, and Hardened skin that takes off damage like hell.

Green Dragonspawn Overseer
Do you really need an explanation? Big, vicious, fast, moderately poisonous, etc.

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Frostsabre
White tiger of kickass. High Agility and Strength, and even has frost attacks and Resistant skin. Also high regeneration and a couple spells. Does bonus damage against anything named Roy.


LOL!

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folder icon   01-03-2004, 04:10 PM
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Ah, I also managed to do something that NOBODY HAS EVER ACCOMPLISHED IN THE MAPPING AND MODDING COMMUNITY!!!

I broke the frigging minimap.

Now, provided you use the ingame teleporter once from Frostmoon to Andorel with a Black Bear morph Druid,
then port a Rogue from Frostmoon to Ildaris,
then port the Black Bear back to Frostmoon,
then Alt+Tab out of Warcraft to another resolution such as 1024x768 from Warcraft's 1600x1200 (while WE is running),
run the DOS commander thingy in Windows (cmd) program and close it,
run Internet Explorer and close it,
then click on Warcraft in the taskbar to return to it,
and then port the Rogue back to Frostmoon from Ildaris...
the map now shows your location offset by about 2 miles north of your real location. Clicking on it to order a unit to move also sends it 2 miles south of where it should be going.

It's either my coolness energies, the portal interdimensional flux, the badassness of my map, or the matter transformations within the morphing Druid, or maybe the psychedelic blue shiny colors, but I broke the frigging minimap. Man I rule.


ALL BOW BEFORE RYNJAXX....wait... he told us how to do that once we get the map ourselves... nevermind people........
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Do you really need an explanation? Big, vicious, fast, moderately poisonous, etc.

Hehe... cool.

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BAH!!!

I never said you were lazy, just worthless. Oh and SCREENIES thank you for the screenies, so happy Angry_Ogre is.

Can you tell us more about how if you're a night elf you get on with the undeadish dudlets. And likewise with orcs and humans etc. Will it be anything like WoW in that sense?

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Technically, there will be 2 factions, Alliance and Horde (UD are on horde)... Both have casters that may summon some kinds of neutral undead though. Right now it's set so that I can have any heroes together, for testing and so on.

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I like the Roy thing...funny
Now, is there anything in the game named Roy?

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I don't see why not.

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Make it a Gnoll boss...:

Ray the Mighty...
or...
Ray the King of Gnolls
or...
Ray

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There is only one thing to discribe this map... mother-fucking-bitchin'-plus-kickass-and-fudge-icing-with-cake-and-other-foods-Rynjaxx-is-the-greatest-map-maker-in-the-world

Either that or teriffic...

I'll stick with mother-fucking-bitchin'-plus-kickass-and-fudge-icing-with-cake-and-other-foods-Rynjaxx-is-the-greatest-map-maker-in-the-world.

Imagine if someone hacked on to your computer and deleted the map... Acually no don't think about it.

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Thanks Ryn, so it's like WoW but in War3.

ohoh make an uber sword and call it 'cederic'. No capitals or anything, cederic would be nice but any name that, well, doesn't strike fear into the heart of the enemy.

Oh and Ryn, please tell me you backed the map up somewhere, pleeeaaase.

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Ah, I also managed to do something that NOBODY HAS EVER ACCOMPLISHED IN THE MAPPING AND MODDING COMMUNITY!!!
I broke the friggin minimap.


Shit, that made me laugh so hard.
Those pics are awesome, keep up the good work.

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I have 70 versions of the thing lying around, taking up a merry 30+ MB of diskspace .

And... Roy will be a Demon.

Why?

Because that ancient mage Steve first used sawdust to create Grant's Ears to go gallomphing for Roys in the good ol' days...

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010425
8-Bit is just so cool.

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Cool game dude, but if u need sum inspirational help lemme no.

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Cool game dude, but if u need sum inspirational help lemme no.

Right.

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Cool game dude, but if u need sum inspirational help lemme no.

*Ahem*

"Cool game, dude. If you need some inspirational help, please let me know".

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he can do the storyline for you and all the writing.

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especially dialouge!

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Yes, let him do the writing.

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Lookin' z00ty, Rynjaxx . You know, it really WOULD be funny if your Frostsabre tiger really DID do bonus damage against anything named 'Roy' and that there's some creature in the game called 'Roy' .

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And... Roy will be a Demon.

Why?

Because that ancient mage Steve first used sawdust to create Grant's Ears to go gallomphing for Roys in the good ol' days...

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010425
8-Bit is just so cool.


That would be the plan.

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Great job Rynjaxx!
Just a question: what about your attack system? Is it like the original War3 one, with the mouse?

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I'm guessing so. so far so good, excellent work ryn.

More old men than i can beat sensless, i'll see about that.

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Great job Rynjaxx!
Just a question: what about your attack system? Is it like the original War3 one, with the mouse?


Pretty much. It would be difficult to implement most anything else within reason. I think I might make it so that in 1st person/chase cam pressing the down arrow would immediately target whatever is in front of you for melee characters. For mages or warlocks, of course, spells are highly important to combat, and most of your damage output will definitely be from spells at higher levels - nearly 75% - while for low levels it might be about 40-60%.

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When is the release date i really wanna know.

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