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folder icon   08-15-2008, 03:43 AM
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What Has Really Been Occurring in the Russian-Georgian Conflict
A first-hand report by an American in Russia

Note: This article was written by a retired Lt.-Col. in the U.S. military,
who is currently residing in Russia. His article here helps clear up much
of the misinformation people have been fed by the sadistic folks in Washington who are trying to promote WWIII.

In 1991 South Osetia was promised independence from the Soviet Union, and
the Georgian Republic. However, when Georgia became independent it saw an
opportunity to grab some land, and the terminals for two major oil
pipelines. Since Georgia is essentially bankrupt and an economic basket case
they saw this as a viable option.

It should also be understood that contrary to the 30 years old CIA report
that is being circulated, Georgia is now over 60% Moslem, with Moslems
controlling the government, and South Osetia--which is surrounded on
three sides by Georgia--is over 80% Orthodox Christian. This is something
else that amazes me about Bush's choice of "allies."

They essentially invaded South Osetia and installed a rather brutal
military government. The South Osetians did not want to be grabbed and they
fought back, and in the fighting some Russian cities were damaged just
across the border and there were a number of civilian casualties. Russia
essentially said "Quit damaging our cities" and sent Russian troops to see
that no more Russian cities were damaged. They became the main component in
a small international (with Azerbaizhan and Tdjikistan) peacekeeping force
in the region.

Comes last Thursday and the Georgians attack the Russians in South Osetia.
Once again they are trying to isolate and grab those two oil terminals. As a
preparatory move to this, they began shelling the Russian forces stationed
in the area as peacekeepers... and once again overshot and shelled two small
Russian towns across the border. The Russians come in to evacuate the
Russian wounded and put fresh troops in place to keep the Georgians and
South Osetians from tearing up Russian cities and killing more Russian
civilians in their own country. They also intended to stop a relentless
Katucha rocket bombardment and standard artillery bombardment of the South
Osetian capital (which has no military significance) and has already
reduced it to a pile of gravel and fine white powder -- with over 2,000
known civilian casualties, mostly the elderly and children.

The Russians tried to send in relief supplies (for all parties) and the
Georgians to sink the unarmed, civilian transport ship. A Russian Krivak
class frigate that was on a routine patrol out of Sevastopol picked up the
SOS and responded. An 120 ft. missile boat is not much of a match for a
Krivak class frigate... enough said. The result was splinters and an oil
slick but not before the freighter had been seriously damaged and sustained
numerous casualties.

The UN is sending in supplies, and no one stops them.

Because there is strong reason to believe that the US has been aiding the
Georgians in the fight (just over 1,500 "advisors" on the ground from
"Blackwater" that are demonstrable and massive shipments of US arms and
ammunition for the past 18 months) the Russians are suspicious of US aid,
especially when it comes aboard military ships and airplanes. Comes the day
the US sends aid via civilian vessels, the Russians will have no objections
and have made it clear that such aid would be welcomed by all parties.

The French president is involved in hammering out a ceasefire that seems to
be holding because the Russians and the Georgians and the South Osetians
all feel that he can be impartial because "he ain't got no dog in this
fight." Still the Georgians have not completely ceased their offensive. They
recently began shelling a Russian column that was withdrawing from South
Osetia along the only serviceable road in the region. They waited until the
column was dead in the middle of the town of Gori before opening fire.

The US is fully aware of who started this and why. They are completely aware
of who the aggressor is. It is inconceivable to me how Bush can go to Peking
and bow down to the COMMUNIST Chinese and have "most favored nation status with both COMMUNIST CHINA and COMMUNIST VIETNAM and at the same time provoke proxy nut-cases like the Georgians and Ukrainians to attack Russia with the
tacit support of the US.

At the moment, Bush is threatening to send a naval task force into South
Osetia under the guise of "humanitarian aid" and has "warned" Russia,
through whose territorial waters it will pass not to be "belligerent." This
is rather hollow to me. I tend to think sending a helicopter carrier and
escort vessels into someone else's waters is belligerent in its own right.
How would the US feel if Russia did this in the Gulf of Mexico and "warned"
the US not to be "belligerent." I seem to recall a similar incident in 1962
in Cuba.

There is currently a US infantry brigade set to deploy in Georgia and an
unknown number of US military personnel set to airlift in with the "aid."
The US flew Georgian troops, who took part in the wanton destruction of the
South Osetian capital into Georgia from Iraq on US transport jets! This has
all of the makings of a repeat of what happened in Vietnam in '64 when
Lyndon used two faked attacks in the Gulf of Tonkin to justify inundating
Southeast Asia with US troops. It has "Henry Kissinger" written all over it.

This situation could get dangerous. It seems like Bush is deliberately
trying to provoke a major war with Russia and it's a very bad idea. He is
obviously believing his own propaganda about how "weak" Russia is and thinks
our oil terminals and those in South Osetia are easy pickings. If the US
fires on or fires at a Russian vessel of any kind while they're delivering
"aid" there is going to be a war. Nothing can stop it. No head of state
could sit for it from any country. The same can be said if the reinforced
Georgians resume their campaign of laying waste to South Osetia and one
more shell or rocket falls on a Russian town.

The long as short of it is that Russian forces were wantonly attacked and a
defenseless city has been reduced to ashes. It's still going on and yet
Russia is being blamed in the US as "over-reacting.

There was NEVER any intent to occupy Georgia or annex any territory for
Russia as Condaleeza Rice is trying to have you believe. The entire
operation was set off to STOP aggression by Georgia against a legally
mandated peacekeeping force and against defenseless civilians, and it is a
demonstrable fact everywhere but in the US.

The US is now "pressuring" Ukraine to "limit" access by Russian naval
vessels to a legitimate Russian naval base at Sovastapol and inciting the
Ukrainians to further border raids against Russia. This is also
demonstrable. It seems that Bush is determined to start a war with the "evil
empire" (that only exists in his delusional mind).

US troops are currently landing in Georgia. Estimates are at least one
"brigade strength" infantry unit with full equipment. They are joining the
Blackwater and Israeli troops (about 4,000 total) already present. The Bush Naval task force with yet more "aid" is supposedly in route. Whether it will be unchallenged when it enters Russian territorial waters remains to be seen.

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folder icon   08-15-2008, 07:41 AM
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Bullshit. Written by FSB (ex-KGB) officers to justify this war. Its one of the tried and true methods of propaganda: you write your own view and attribute it to a neutral source for added credibility. There is so much bias and so many factual fallacies in it, it doesnt even warrant a real response.

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folder icon   02-12-2009, 12:06 PM
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Thursday and the Georgians attack the Russians in South Osetia.
Once again they are trying to isolate and grab those two oil terminals. As a
preparatory move to this, they began shelling the Russian forces stationed
in the area as peacekeepers... and once again overshot and shelled two small
Russian towns across the border. The Russians come in to evacuate the
Russian wounded and put fresh troops in place to keep the Georgians and
South Osetians from tearing up Russian cities and killing more Russian
civilians in their own country. They also intended to stop a relentless
Katucha rocket bombardment and standard artillery bombardment of the South
Osetian capital (which has no military significance) and has already
reduced it to a pile of gravel and fine white powder -- with over 2,000
known civilian casualties, mostly the elderly and children.

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