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folder icon   04-30-2002, 04:06 PM
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I've been playing alot lately, and I've a few questions to ask. Is it just me or are the Orcs a bit stronger than the rest? If you play humans there is really no way to stop a good orc enemy. Footmen are toast, priests can't heal quick enough, and only mortars do any real damage, and enemies know to target them first. Then there's the ongodly raider rush. They seriously need to be toned down, all they do is mass them with a farseer and go straight for your town hall.

Night Elf rushes are almost unstoppable. Basically, right when you're gettin your hero a DH comes and starts attacking your workers. You'll probably do enough damage to make him run away, but it disrupts your workers. While that was happening, 4-6 archers have been trained at his base. He uses moon wells to heal his DH, then attack you again, only with archers this time. You're still recovering from your attack, and you get him again. Only the undead seem to stop this rush, and only if they get a spirit tower in time. This rush is tough. It's so unfair, I almost feel bad when I use it. I've used it 5 times today, and I won 4 times. How can it be countered?

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folder icon   04-30-2002, 05:01 PM
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And the DH can use mana burn to make your hero seriously wonded and not capable to cast spells and then attack your peons and run back to his base use moon wells and comeback with some archers kill your hero and attack your peons. After a while the DH rusher will win.

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folder icon   05-01-2002, 10:00 AM
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lol

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folder icon   05-01-2002, 11:17 AM
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Jeltz, that sounds bad. Hur är det med allianssen?

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folder icon   05-02-2002, 10:58 AM
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Oh, I've held back NE DH rushes before. It's not that bad, unless several enemies do it at once. Then it'll kill you. But if it's only like one, I repeal him with my grunts and my farseer. Which I usually have by the time he finds me. If it's more then one, an ally will help and we'll drive them back. So it's not an end all rush.

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folder icon   05-02-2002, 11:32 AM
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Howdo you get the farseer and the grunts in time. You cna get either but not both. Mana burn would make your farseer uncapable of casting spells and DH wins over a farseer in combat. The DH rusher will make some archers. If you have allies they can help but if it is ffa or 1v1 you don't get any help.

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folder icon   05-02-2002, 04:53 PM
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If you get a Blademaster first you can do it, because a Blademaster with a little luck (from either Critical Strike or the copy spell) can beat a DH. Even if the Demon Hunter has mana burn... the BM can still get lucky enough to beat em.

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folder icon   05-02-2002, 10:06 PM
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Howdo you get the farseer and the grunts in time. You cna get either but not both. Mana burn would make your farseer uncapable of casting spells and DH wins over a farseer in combat. The DH rusher will make some archers. If you have allies they can help but if it is ffa or 1v1 you don't get any help.

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folder icon   05-04-2002, 05:36 AM
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But they are lucky sometimes and attacks your base before you have any defence.

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folder icon   05-04-2002, 12:26 PM
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Yeah, I haven't been attacked on small maps by that rush so maybe that's why I have the farseer and grunts by the time they attack. On a 4 player map, it might be different. I've been mostly playing big maps besides lost temple.

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folder icon   05-04-2002, 05:06 PM
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This rush only works on small maps. On bigger maps you have a small army when the DH arrives.

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