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wiki.forumsx.net is all set up, and its sitting there collecting dust and porno and dick enlargement ads from wiki bots. i suggest we somehow turn it into an SC2 wiki... i mean, before anyone else gets a chance to do it if we do it first, we have a good chance of becoming the main SC2 wiki page (ala WoWwiki).

just a thought. it would be best to change the domain of the wiki to wiki.starcraftlive.net, to better match its purpose.

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ive also posed this question in the admin forum, if anyone with access wants to discuss it further in there.

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I like the idea. You might want to add sections like "race vs. race strategies" and stuff like that so it's not just a list of units.

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ive also posed this question in the admin forum, if anyone with access wants to discuss it further in there.


Sorry comrade but the only way to get a discussion going in there is to give me access

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Might as well just beat everyone else to it, since like you said, the forumsxwiki is dead. At the very least we could hold it for ransom!

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I love Wikipedia! Go for it!

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we should get it integrated with the website more, so that people can edit it freely. perhaps a link to it from the main page? we gotta edit the damn thing so it matches more with SCL.net and not so much like the stock bare bones wiki install that it is

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I can send traffic from wiki.starcraftlive.net to where we have the site hosted now, but I'm not sure I can host the site myself, not as is at least. I don't think my site can do PHP... I could look into a different wiki though, considering the fact that it is pretty bare bones anyways.

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we can continue to host the wiki, thats not a problem. we would just need to edit it slightly, and maybe give it the same color theme as the website, and similair logo, etc.

and ofcourse, to get it off the ground, we would need people to make articles... or rip them off of wikipedia

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Someone beat us to the punch: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft_II

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its still plenty early in the game. we can still establish a name for ourselves. by no means is anyone the preeminent starcraft wiki source just yet.

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Okay im going to put up some units today, somebody else go in and make it look nice and add pictures.

Go here for the list of units

http://wiki.forumsx.net/index.php/L...arcraft_2_Units

Make the units look nice!

Main sc2 article:

http://wiki.forumsx.net/index.php/Starcraft_2

Someone make up something nice

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^ ill get to ripping off wikipedia and shit this week as well

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The units stuff might be more up to date on StarcraftLive.net... not positive, I'm not sure Grunt has been updating that stuff since we got the unit guide going on the main site.

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He has. He's added speculation about possible abilities for things like the Reaper and also threw in a nice blurry screenshot of Reavers. I'd wager you guys have the best unit guide around.

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I pulled all the unit info from your site actually kris. It's pretty comprehensive as is. I haven't put in buildings yet.

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He has. He's added speculation about possible abilities for things like the Reaper and also threw in a nice blurry screenshot of Reavers. I'd wager you guys have the best unit guide around.

Actually, Kris was the first with the blurry screenshot, but I followed up with one from the high-res vid . Although now I might have to take one from the PC gamer scans......

I like the blurry Observer pic. I totally haxxored the scan from PC Gamer to remove the blue outline . Also - even though it's blurry, I love the Star Relic pic! Its blurriness reminds me of the blurry-warcraft3-pic days!

Blizzard's spoiling us by introducing all the new units in glorious high-res. They're not leaving us with much to speculate on. Then again, War3 had more content in terms of neutral creeps, heroes, buildings, items, and more stuff which I can't remember at the moment.

I went around 'prettifying' the unit guide by giving them a seperate section for abilities, like the mothership. Still have quite a lot to do though........wheeeeeeee .

I love how the Protoss have EIGHTEEN UNITS. If the other races have this many units, the amount of depth in SC2 will be fantastic.

I'm too lazy to edit it at the moment, but I just noticed another problem with the guide that needs fixing. Kris and I fluctuate between singular and plural forms for the names. I'd like it all standardised to singulars.....I'll fix that up tomorrow, along with adding the rest of the abilities to the units I haven't fixed yet.

The next phase of my plan is to seperate the info for each unit into 'Lore' and 'Gameplay'. Like, the opening paragraph will give a little lore (if applicable). And the second paragraph will be how the unit behaves in the game, followed by abilities, etc. I'm lazy though, so I'm content to leave the guide as it is......for now .

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When I get time, I'm going to add the ability to add abilities to each unit, complete with those fancy little icons you use to use the ability.

I'd also like to improve the screenshots/artwork display pages, having them display in our layout, and also allow you to choose which units appear in each image. Once that is setup, you could go to the race guide and it would show you a listing of what screenshots/artwork each unit can be seen in.

And fixing those blurry pictures too

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^ add water marks to the images Kris, so other fansites don't rob us of our work!

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Well it's not like any of the stuff is origanal works anywhere... most of it is off of Blizzard's site in some way or another.

And in case you were wondering, yes, I'm trying to think of a justification to be lazy about this.

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^ eh, it never hurts to put your logo on stuff that you have. people see the screenshots, and see your watermark, and they associate the two with each other. starcraft 2 = SCL.net. you gotta think about marketing the site. yes, thats my finance degree and 8 beers in me talking

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I dunno, I think Kris is right . When I see a screenshot with a watermark on it, I just tend to think it's kinda pretentious .

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Well dim may be right about this marketing thing... apparently he's taken some courses in the matter during his drunken tenure at whatever institution he said he was going to. You know all the gaming websites usually put their logo in the corner of a screenshot, even thought its clearly just a stupid screenshot.

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Let's get that link on the main page to all the articles working eh? This site is damn hard to navigate unless you're searching for things.

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Yeah, don't watermark them through it. Just put your name in the corner.

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Y'know if we're going to have a Wiki maybe we should also create a group on Facebook. Facebook is big right now.

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yeah, madmac, you can delete any and all spam that you come across, as can anybody else. damn spam bots

link to all pages has been fixed.

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Y'know if we're going to have a Wiki maybe we should also create a group on Facebook. Facebook is big right now.

Oh hell no!

All I'm gonna say is FUCK Facebook.

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Oh hell no!

All I'm gonna say is FUCK Facebook.


I agree, with less profanity of course.

Facebook is evil.

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folder icon   06-20-2007, 01:21 PM
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Too late on the facebook group. I joined the facebook group the day the game was announced. Besides, although Facebook is a tool it is not as powerful as a wiki for descriptions. You get one page on a facebook group and it's only accessible to facebook users. But if you want to make one go for it.



We have to map the wiki site so that the best 'map' isn't the view all pages screen. Have links to a main page all over the place, link things to the races and from there strategies of the race or history of the race or units of the race for that matter. How do we go about doing that? I haven't programmed since my senior year in high school.

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folder icon   06-20-2007, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KeeperOfTheGrove
Oh hell no!

All I'm gonna say is FUCK Facebook.

I agree, with less profanity of course.

Facebook is evil.


I agree with just the same profanity.

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folder icon   06-20-2007, 03:34 PM
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I just like to swear. Fuck!

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folder icon   06-20-2007, 07:04 PM
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Too late on the facebook group. I joined the facebook group the day the game was announced. Besides, although Facebook is a tool it is not as powerful as a wiki for descriptions. You get one page on a facebook group and it's only accessible to facebook users. But if you want to make one go for it.



We have to map the wiki site so that the best 'map' isn't the view all pages screen. Have links to a main page all over the place, link things to the races and from there strategies of the race or history of the race or units of the race for that matter. How do we go about doing that? I haven't programmed since my senior year in high school.


its not hard, you just use wiki's built in code, which is extremely user friendly and simple to use. thats not the problem, the problem is we have very little content, as only myself and ultra punk are adding entries to the wiki. it would help to get more people adding content. its not too difficult, either, you can just copy and paste articles from wikipedia or starcraft.wikia.com into our wiki once we actually have enough definitions, we can start on making the main page look somewhat decent.

kris, a link to the wiki from SCL.net would be very much appreciated, if it would be possible for ya to do us the honor


EDIT: main page has now been finalized

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So my lazy ass was thinking about adding a link here, but is this stuff being updated anymore??? You guys should really consider focusing your efforts on Starcraftlive.net, rather than having two places with similar content, we could have one ubersite that crushes all that stand in its way.

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folder icon   08-01-2007, 06:52 PM
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So my lazy ass was thinking about adding a link here, but is this stuff being updated anymore??? You guys should really consider focusing your efforts on Starcraftlive.net, rather than having two places with similar content, we could have one ubersite that crushes all that stand in its way.

yeah, we gave up on it about a month ago when we realized we weren't getting a link

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