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Why do some people mass Grunts. Personally, I think that's stupid because:

1. Grunts cost a lot. IF you kill them, the enemy is gonna get smoked becuase his economy is in the trash.

2. Grunts take FOREVER to train. IF you rush them then, they are dead.

3. I suck with Orcs anyway. They build too slow.

So why do lots of people try to rush with Grunts? Its a stupid thing to do, and will most likely get you killed. Tower Rushing is still very possible with the Orcs, but in my experiance, Grunt Rushing just doesn't work.

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I have lost count of the number of times I, when I still played Orc, got slaughtered trying to grunt rush. Ditto the number of times I slaughtered one as Undead. And you will not believe how easily I can stop a tower rush now. It's just so... PATHETIC.

You suck as orcs? Not surprising - Orcs suck period. They are, in my opinion, THE VERY FUCKING WORST RACE IN ALL OF WARCRAFT III. Healing wards are a waste of money and time to research now, and a waste of mana to cast. And mass shamans are just so... PATHETIC now. I have NEVER lost a 1v1 game to Orc opponents, and in team games the Orcs always give me the least trouble. I also find that they make the least helpful allies.

Bottom line - Orcs suck.

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folder icon   11-11-2002, 03:24 PM
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ill take you on anytime as orc, TDH. ive been developing some new strategies that will pulverize your ass, spear your ass, and slice up your ass very nicely. i find that while its not really "rushing", early grunts with a BM work very well.

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folder icon   11-11-2002, 03:26 PM
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Orcs are sorta the noobie race, let zak tell ya why. It sure convinced me.

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folder icon   11-11-2002, 03:41 PM
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I never play with orcs.

But it is always good to have an orc in a team game, if for nothing more then Ed arua, and BL, Kodo thingys, and a meat sheild.

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folder icon   11-11-2002, 03:48 PM
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im actually very good with orc rushing. and im good at burrow rushing

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folder icon   11-11-2002, 04:09 PM
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burrow rushing is the biggest n00b strat ever. its so easy to counter its laughable. and anyone who says orcs are a n00b race needs to play against me.

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folder icon   11-11-2002, 05:06 PM
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how do u counter against burrow and tower rushing i did it once with storming a base with thous of hunts like 12 comein and 12 are following that 12 and so on and half of them just did what they liked whilst my allie sent in like 5 griffons and a fare number of gomish flyers my hunts held ff the towers and destroyed the base from the bac forword it wad fun then in defence he tried to escape but a few hunts tooc that also he built extra towers and walled me in but the hunts sluaghtered them i took them out strategiclly.

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folder icon   11-11-2002, 09:51 PM
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that isnt a counter to burrow/tower rushing. "thous of hunt" is also a lamer strat IMO.

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folder icon   11-11-2002, 10:16 PM
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Massing grunts only really works if you get say about 12 of them, and 2-4 cats. The grunts just soak up the damage while the cats rape any static d.

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I have lost count of the number of times I, when I still played Orc, got slaughtered trying to grunt rush. Ditto the number of times I slaughtered one as Undead. And you will not believe how easily I can stop a tower rush now. It's just so... PATHETIC.

You suck as orcs? Not surprising - Orcs suck period. They are, in my opinion, THE VERY FUCKING WORST RACE IN ALL OF WARCRAFT III. Healing wards are a waste of money and time to research now, and a waste of mana to cast. And mass shamans are just so... PATHETIC now. I have NEVER lost a 1v1 game to Orc opponents, and in team games the Orcs always give me the least trouble. I also find that they make the least helpful allies.

Bottom line - Orcs suck.

Haha, effort. Healing Wards are godly. I'm a full time orc player now and in solo/2v2 I go single rax quick tech to docs with healing. The fact they have tiny hitpoints doesn't matter if you've got about 8 or so docs unless you're enemy is a micro god and decides he'll just go after your wards full on and ignore microing his units, and even when a healing ward goes down you can immediately slap another up.
And mass shamans? wtf? The idea isn't to mass them, the idea is to get about 6-8 of them to lust your grunts. You shouldn't be trying to mass anything with orcs, massing is newbar strat and doesn't work.
One last point - being tower rushed successfully only happens to newbs to don't even scout around their base at all.

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Grunt rush in War3 = Stupid. Builds too slowly to rush .

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And mass shamans? wtf? The idea isn't to mass them, the idea is to get about 6-8 of them to lust your grunts. You shouldn't be trying to mass anything with orcs, massing is newbar strat and doesn't work.

agreed totaly!

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If it were me in charge, I'd make grunt massing unstoppable!

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if it were me in charge, id give my great hall the "bust planet" command, which is like a nuke except that it totally destroys everthing on the map(including terrain) except my great hall.
Chib: right on, healing ward is awesome. did you know that with troll regeneration and healing ward, headhunters regenerate 8.5 hp per second? and witch doctors regenerate 9.3 hp per second? thats pretty fuckin sweet.

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Mass witchdoctors would beat mass shamans.

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actually, if the shamans mass fire and make liberal use of all of their spells, i think the shamans could win.

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Orcs are good for newbs, but they dont have the power in them for a good player to access. Thats why nothing works so well with them.

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orcs can be good!!!!!!!!!!!

get the tc at the start for a hero then get aura then grunts have a fcuking fast attack and fast move speed

now a lvl 3 aura=very fast

lvl 3 aura with bloodlust=holy mother fucking shit fast

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if it were me in charge, id give my great hall the "bust planet" command, which is like a nuke except that it totally destroys everthing on the map(including terrain) except my great hall.
Chib: right on, healing ward is awesome. did you know that with troll regeneration and healing ward, headhunters regenerate 8.5 hp per second? and witch doctors regenerate 9.3 hp per second? thats pretty fuckin sweet.

OMG! OMG! I never even thought of that!!! I totally forgot about troll regen for docs!! Wow! Thank you so much, I'm now researching that as quickly as I can. That will be a HUGE help for orcs anti-air. Wow! Cool!

Oh, and grunt, if it were up to you, you'd probably make it so one grunt could level 11 insane computers in 5 seconds flat.

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orcs can be good!!!!!!!!!!!

get the tc at the start for a hero then get aura then grunts have a fcuking fast attack and fast move speed

now a lvl 3 aura=very fast

lvl 3 aura with bloodlust=holy mother fucking shit fast


HAHAHA, if you get TC first your going to be raped faster than your opponent can say bend over.

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I think what ends up happening, is people who arent really good with orcs call them a newb race while those of amazing strength in orcs proove diffrent, there is no noob race, and if ya think so than you probably just suck with them. So i wouldnt think of orcs so lightly when I think there are plenty of orc players who would like to pay you a visit

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Or all the newbs realize how easy the orcs are to use and dont realize there no true power in the race.

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Oh, and grunt, if it were up to you, you'd probably make it so one grunt could level 11 insane computers in 5 seconds flat.


You don't want to see the custom games I made .

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