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grom, that was definitely 4 posts in a row. youre a very very bad boy.

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Too many topics to cover in one post. Would become confusing.

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I unfortunately disagree. If we have TOO many ranks, there's gonna be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much red tape in WDP! It'll take ages to get things done! Let's keep it as simple and as efficient as possible .

I am still thinking about it. I see both points of view, and will give my decision soon.

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I on the other hand do not see his point... since when would 4 ranks be too much? The way i see it is the ranks are too diversified now. I'm thinking one Officer rank could possibly fix that.

And all things war or military related SHOULD be part of Grom's War division, shouldn't they, Grunt? Unless it's like the Emperor's personal Guard or somethin, then they would be with the emperor at all times. and therefor needless to say under his command directly.

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lo....i was wondering if i could join the War section of WDP...i have posted in 3 other places but haven't got a reply...cheerz!

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Sure thing.

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I'm not so sure I'm part of the war department. As ambassader under MacheadII, I think I'll just be under his command, except if a draft is ordered. Even then, i think he commands me in battle. In "peace time" i'll need free reign to go where I choose, meet new clans and form alliances.

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And all things war or military related SHOULD be part of Grom's War division, shouldn't they, Grunt? Unless it's like the Emperor's personal Guard or somethin, then they would be with the emperor at all times. and therefor needless to say under his command directly.


Well, elite guard don't neccessarily need to acompany the emperor at all times :p. I just figured that they'd be the best of the best soldiers in the clan. In other words, even a lowly grunt can be promoted to this coveted status. On the other hand, it'll be hard to assign this position to anyone since the game isn't even OUT yet .

So, I guess maybe we should keep the idea on hold until...oh...about a year and a half or so .

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I'm just offering some advice as a bystander. Not really interested in joining WDP, but:

a legionnary/leggionaire is not realyl in the nature of a leader. Actually, legionnaires are a legion's most basic unit, like a grunt, but for a legion. If you want a colonel or sargeant-like rank, I'd say go with something like Centurion. They are the captain-like guys in legions.

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Well, Legionnaires should be seeing plenty of fighting, too! ^________^

personally, I'd like some role in WDP where I can be considered 'high ranking' and still work solo at the same time :/.

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I'm just offering some advice as a bystander. Not really interested in joining WDP, but:

a legionnary/leggionaire is not realyl in the nature of a leader. Actually, legionnaires are a legion's most basic unit, like a grunt, but for a legion. If you want a colonel or sargeant-like rank, I'd say go with something like Centurion. They are the captain-like guys in legions.


I appreciate you input. I'll work on that.

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Well, Legionnaires should be seeing plenty of fighting, too! ^________^



Yes, doubtless, but a leggionairy is not a commanding rank. they are a basic footsoldier. A Centurion is a step up.

or something like,

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whatever. as long as the rank is an actual commander's rank. I just thought it would be kool if you have your WDP empire, and all of your army will be the legions, then the commander ranking officers are centurions. It just works good. But then again, I have a thing for naming things.

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just because legionnaires were the basic unit of the army in, what, rome was it? i forget... anyway... that doesnt mean they cant be commanders here. i mean, i could have an army where all the footsoldiers were called Colonels and all the commanders were called Privates if i wanted to. just sayin.

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yeah i guess you could if yoiu want to be considered idiots by everyone else

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just because legionnaires were the basic unit of the army in, what, rome was it? i forget... anyway... that doesnt mean they cant be commanders here. i mean, i could have an army where all the footsoldiers were called Colonels and all the commanders were called Privates if i wanted to. just sayin.

sure, and instead of a warmaster, Grom can be called Mr. Leader Man. But that probly wont happen. Know why? Cause it sounds stupid and not proffesional. I'm just trying to help verse you in military ranking. It's a very important thing.

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sure, and instead of a warmaster, Grom can be called Mr. Leader Man. But that probly wont happen. Know why? Cause it sounds stupid and not proffesional. I'm just trying to help verse you in military ranking. It's a very important thing.

Aye. Ranks have been fixed.

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I'm still confused about who is in control of who. When not in open combat with other clans, I think our councilor of Labor should dictate what most people do to get lots of cash - at least in the beginning. But I do agree that our Military councilor should be able to control us all as a group in event of war - I figure in most cases we'll just grab our most powerful weapons or spells and melee like a sonofabitch. I was wondering on what role other council members would play in the event of war - wouldn't they automatically become generals? I guess me being a peon, I'd just follow the orders of anyone above me Whatever I just think you council members should discuss who has all the power over us peons or legionaires or whatever.

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The council leaders should hold the most power, yes I agree. BUT in an event of an all out war I DO think Grom and his Generals should have control of the 'army.

Its only logical, i mean... in the US navy even if an admiral comes aboard some unimportant ship, the captain of that ship does hold the commanding power there, regardless of rank. because it IS his ship.

I believe that same principle should apply here, Warmaster and his Generals should hold absolute rule over their armys

Besides.. won't most the other council leaders be busy with their own affairs? for example.. Keith heads the CIA, he should be gathering Info in even of a war.. etc etc

Leaders, please hear this out and think upon it.

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the thing is there aren't so many of us. So if I'm under MacheadII and say sniper and XxHANZO are under Keith (unknown at this time) then who's actually in the army?

If every council member had their own underlings there'd by nothing left for a real army.

so what I think is we should all be under different departments until there's a real clan threat. then we declare a state of emergency and call a general draft at which time, our war masters would nobly lead us.

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My original idea was that there would be the military, and 90% of the clan would be in that. but the military people arnt just military, they have 2nd jobs like swordsmiths or ambassadors or such.

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Ok then let me get this straight. Legionaires are a rank higher then grunt? Also, how do you get promoted?

Sorry I didn't read everything on this topic so..

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Exactly Gunny, we each have dual roles in the game. We have primary posts in different departments, but we could be drafted in times of need. The only question is when will these times of need occur, and how will we be called together? I figure we should consider ourselves an army ONLY when we declare war on another clan OR we are attacked ourselves. Just my opinion. Tell me what you think. And Grom how do you feel about this.

And gunny what's your take on allying with other clans? You should check out some of the clans posting on battle.net WoW forum. Some might make good allies.

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Ok then let me get this straight. Legionaires are a rank higher then grunt? Also, how do you get promoted?

Sorry I didn't read everything on this topic so..


Legionairre's are now the equivelent of a Grunt. We just had a name change.

Promotion comes from Grom, and whenever and whoever he sees fit.

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YAY! I'm a general now . LOL, I just noticed that everybody who's a general is a HOrde Zealot .

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All the greatest Warriors/Leaders are Horde Zealots.
Orcs are just natural ass kickers

And welcome aboard GRUNT! Will be an honor to command armys beside you.

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All the greatest Warriors/Leaders are Horde Zealots.
Orcs are just natural ass kickers

And welcome aboard GRUNT! Will be an honor to command armys beside you.


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I wish to hold a division meeting sometime soon. Have some things to go over. I'll post a date sometime soon.

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Damn timezone difference!

If you guys have a meeting, just post a summary for me, thanks . I'll throw in my own stuff later.

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Or, move to the states, and get aim.

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Um...no .

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do it!!!!!!!! u can live in my house!

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yeah i agree. i think we should leave it how it is for now until it gets closer to release and we now exactly how many members we have.

Agreed, 4 ranks is enough for the amouth of members we have as of now, lets not bite of more than we can chew

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