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You suck then.

In other news, I need Bloodfang Shoulders so I can post how hot I look in 1.9.

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You just suck at life. All paladins are microless talentless child molesters. You have plate, you should be able to just auto attack him and kill him even without a shield. Lets see, while naked using a worn dagger the only way to damage you is poisons and evisc, so no stunlock, so auto attack for the win? a 5 second stun, hammer of wrath, and the reason you can't beat him is because you can't make yourself invulnerable?

Nice dick dude, way to roll a pally you child molester.

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folder icon   01-03-2006, 04:46 PM
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Pallys are the most gimped class in the game period. And auto attacking really doesn't work when they hit evasion and my weapon speed is at 3.80, by the time I hit him once I'm half dead.

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Pallys are the most gimped class in the game period. And auto attacking really doesn't work when they hit evasion and my weapon speed is at 3.80, by the time I hit him once I'm half dead.
YOU HAVE HEALS

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ROGUES HAVE GOUGE AND KICK

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Paladins are gimped my fucking ass. You're obviously the worst player in the history of mankind if you think Paladins are gimped and you cannot beat a naked rogue without your shields. Just play another game dude.

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folder icon   01-04-2006, 06:53 AM
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What can a Paladin do other then Auto-attack? Heal? Not when every other class in the game has a spell interupt or general CC/interupt. What use our 220 damage for 300 mana spell every 10 seconds? And Paladin's are seriously gimped, they had to give us two invulnerability shields and an ability to restore our health to maximun and we're still beat down by every other class, then people say we're overpowered becuase every time they jump us in World PVP we can go bubbleup. Guess what you just have to wait 12 more seconds to slaughter us period.

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Not when every other class in the game has a spell interupt or general CC/interupt.
not every class has an interrupt.

and honestly, if youre whining that much about paladins, play a different class. theyre clearly not for you.

and if you got owned by a naked rogue of the same level as you using his starting weapon when you were at full health and mana and just had shields on cooldown... yeah, face it, you suck ass.

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folder icon   01-04-2006, 07:28 PM
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I had half mana, and 3/4 health.

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folder icon   01-04-2006, 11:32 PM
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you still suck ass dude.

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folder icon   01-05-2006, 07:33 AM
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In my experience, I have rarely seen Palladins do much of anything in PvP. I almost never get killed by one. Just last night my 41 warrior took on a 44 and 45 pallies and still rocked them hard. Palladins are way too defensive, and not enough offensive. Unless you manage to get godly equipment, you can't do shit with them.

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folder icon   01-05-2006, 10:06 AM
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Such BS. Fight a non holy spec pally. I've been crit for 3k by paladins. Anyone who says a paladin can't do well in PvP is a fuckin tard. Alot of paladins don't spec properly for PvP and don't have the gear and whine that they suck dick. It's like me walking out 20-0-31 as a warrior with valor and bitching that I can't kill anyone. A 31-20 Warrior with epic gear can walk around smashing people for 3k, a paladin can do the same fucking thing. Warriors get a shitload more versatility doing damage, Paladins get a shitload versatility staying alive, they use the same exact fucking gear. Bitching about sucking ass in PvP means you don't know how to play your damn class.

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folder icon   01-06-2006, 12:11 AM
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A Paladins damage comes from procs, a Warrior's does not.

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folder icon   01-06-2006, 11:31 AM
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When my pally was level 45 I managed to take out two warriors, level 46 and level 50 by myself at the same time. Maybe they were just bad, but any idiot can spam mortal strike, hamstring, overpower. The trick to being a good pally in pvp is: concentration aura, and patience. Oh and don't forget blessing of freedom!

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folder icon   01-07-2006, 08:43 PM
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Oh my did this thread get off topic...

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folder icon   01-10-2006, 01:00 AM
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ok, first off, everyone whining about the World of Roguecraft video and how the rogue had the drop is ridiculous. It's a ROGUE, it's supposed to have the drop. Second off, yes the opponents sucked donkey dingus but then again so do 2/3 of the people on any other server.

Third: Warrior is a heavily gear dependant class, DUH. Obviously casters aren't quite as gear dependant because an ap/pom/pyro does the same damage with 8000 int as it does with 2000 (although +dmg gear and -resist gear is changing itemization slowly)


A few more important points to note, anyone who wines about paladins now must be on crack. 1.9 is out, your points are MOOT.

MOOT I SAY

Fifth (or sixth? mebe seventh?) off

MOOT!

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folder icon   01-10-2006, 10:06 AM
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ok, first off, everyone whining about the World of Roguecraft video and how the rogue had the drop is ridiculous. It's a ROGUE, it's supposed to have the drop. Second off, yes the opponents sucked donkey dingus but then again so do 2/3 of the people on any other server.

Third: Warrior is a heavily gear dependant class, DUH. Obviously casters aren't quite as gear dependant because an ap/pom/pyro does the same damage with 8000 int as it does with 2000 (although +dmg gear and -resist gear is changing itemization slowly)


A few more important points to note, anyone who wines about paladins now must be on crack. 1.9 is out, your points are MOOT.

MOOT I SAY

Fifth (or sixth? mebe seventh?) off

MOOT!


Sorry Yuber, I misjudged you. You're the second worst player in WoW.

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folder icon   01-10-2006, 11:53 AM
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Sorry Yuber, I misjudged you. You're the second worst player in WoW.

I hate being taken seriously .

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folder icon   01-10-2006, 12:20 PM
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I haven't seen the video...
and Dark Jester might disagree...
but a rogue who has "the drop" and can get off a successful stunlock can wtfpwn you without taking any damage. Period.

It all depends on timing, if he can maintain the stunlock, and the attacked has nothing to break the stun.

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folder icon   01-10-2006, 01:10 PM
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I haven't seen the video...
and Dark Jester might disagree...
but a rogue who has "the drop" and can get off a successful stunlock can wtfpwn you without taking any damage. Period.

It all depends on timing, if he can maintain the stunlock, and the attacked has nothing to break the stun.


I'd say its more based on spec. When you decide to become a prep rogue you make a statement, this statement being: "I am really really powerful every 10 minutes." Between that time I'm decent at best.

Ever wonder why most rogues won't duel right after they've blown their cooldowns? Because they know that they can't perform as well as they'd like and a lot of rogues come to rely on them. The same goes for a mage with pom/arcane power etc, or an iceblock mage. I can't really think of any other classes whose performance and survivability is improved so much by cooldowns then rogue/mage. However that isn't to say that cooldowns don't help other classes too.

Think about it this way.

A rogue can stunlock you only so many times before it runs out of options (at least with its basic abilities.) It can gouge you, kidney shot you etc, but sooner or later you can get away. It can slow you with poisons too but again, this only does so much. HOWEVER if the rogue has blind, vanish, sprint, coldblood, evasion etc this is HUGE, it gives them a lot more options and way more survivability. Tack on preperation and you've just doubled the possiblities. A rogue that can vanish twice is a dangerous rogue.

I'd say rogues are more cooldown dependant than gear dependant.

And just a note, normally when I type stuff in caps like THIS IS MOOT! I'm kidding.

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folder icon   01-11-2006, 08:27 PM
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I haven't seen the video...
and Dark Jester might disagree...
but a rogue who has "the drop" and can get off a successful stunlock can wtfpwn you without taking any damage. Period.

It all depends on timing, if he can maintain the stunlock, and the attacked has nothing to break the stun.


If every stun hits and he is flawless in his delivery with preparation, then yes, he can kill me without me hitting him. Usually people don't know how to do it perfectly and fuck it. I only need a split second to hit you twice .

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folder icon   01-12-2006, 12:12 PM
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stunlock is a useless build now thanks to the PvP trinket. i laugh at stunlock rogues.

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folder icon   01-12-2006, 04:02 PM
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And if you don't have it equipped becuase you want 2% crit chance and 2% dodge chance?

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ok, maybe you don't have it equipped, ...
but doesn't the trinket have it's own cooldown? If I play it right, I can stun you again and start the cycle over.
It might take a vanish and a blind to get you where I want you, but i still have a chance of keeping you under control.

...unless you are undead. Then I am fucked. lol

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folder icon   01-12-2006, 07:25 PM
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trinket cooldown is 5 minutes. i always have it equipped in PvP. id much rather have it than 2% dodge(though while its on cooldown you can swap it out if youre really that much of a microer).

and yeah, i exagerrate a little in saying that it makes stunlock rogues totally worthless. though honestly against me vanish isnt going to do you much good. as a hunter, as soon as i even get a hint a rogue is in the area i pop on track hidden and start chucking flares

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folder icon   01-13-2006, 06:56 AM
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ok, maybe you don't have it equipped, ...
but doesn't the trinket have it's own cooldown? If I play it right, I can stun you again and start the cycle over.
It might take a vanish and a blind to get you where I want you, but i still have a chance of keeping you under control.

...unless you are undead. Then I am fucked. lol

Undead, the race that have no racial stopping, breaking out of, or resisting stun? Maybe orc is what you meant?

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probably.
I think i was thinking of Will of the Undead, but that is just a charm, fear and sleep breaker.

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they've so severely nerfed the orc racials that they pose no real advantage anymore anyways.

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to get back on topic...

i finally hit 60 this past monday. heres a shot i took of Telzhin, my Troll Hunter, in RFK. i was upping my 2h-axe skill because i just picked up a lord alexander's

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sure, flaunt your pretty epic mount over those of us who dont have one yet. jerk. *sniffle*

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Do you sleep?

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Bad pic BFL all I see is a little X.

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Bad pic BFL all I see is a little X.

Hmm try going directly to the picture and see if that works. http://freespaces.com/bigfloppyllama/60.jpg

To Yuber, I've been on winter break since dec 17th and don't go back until next wednesday So of course I sleep, maybe 4 hours at a time

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im not sure if im a casual player or not. when i play i usually play in many-hour sessions, but i always play in spurts, a few days at a time. except recently when my housemate(and typical partner in crime) Lucy was out of town. then i pretty much played every day for a month.

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